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Balshaw's Grammar School
18-Feb-2003, 12:28 PM
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Hello Forum, I feel that I have to break my silence to join in the discussion on the denigration of engineers. I have read the comments made about the attitude of staff to potential engineers at Balshaws, you were not alone. At Leyland Secondary Modern School, pre-war I let it be known that at the age of 14 yrs I was joining Leyland Motors to become an indentured apprentice to Tool Making. Derisive laughs all round, however, I took the entrance exams and was accepted. Due to this, I was in a reserved occupation until the completion of my "time", then into the Army to be told to forget all I had learned at Leylands, the Army would make me into an engineer. Under silent protest I did as I was told, and "did it their way". Proud and proficient I waited to put my new found skills to use, only to be moved at a moments notice to the staff of the Provost Marshall, of which I shall say nothing, until the final day of service I was informed that, as I was not prepared to become a "Regular" I was transferred back to REME for one day for Demob. Back to Leylands to my old trade, only to be told that there was no time for "fancy" tool makers, output was all that mattered. I realised that the pride of being a time served engineer counted for nothing, so it was time to make a change. It would take too long to chronicle the following years, suffice it to say that I was able to apply my knowledge in "true" engineering in the Paper Industry and the Friction Industry. I was head hunted because I was "available" and to be in a position because I was regarded as a "proper" engineer was compensation for the years of being regarded as second class because I had not been to College or University. Such phrases as "good fault finders should be good fault menders" and "we want men to do things, not talk about them" mean nothing to me now, for I see that there is now a shortage of artisans, people to work with their hands, people who can manage when the power goes off, people to get you going again. I look back down Life`s highway and see all the mistakes which were made, and all the artisans who got the wheels back on the track to progress to where we are today. Engineers are not, and never have been second class, they are the men (and women) who keep us going. Long may they flourish. Sorry if I`ve gone on a bit, but I`m very sad about the way the industry of this country has been traded for frivolous things we regard as essential to our way of life today. In deference to Martin, should I say that the foregoing is my opinion, and does not reflect on any person living or dead., Cheers, William R.
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