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- Peter Harris - 01-Mar-2011
A little on the Autralian angle http://www.sustainability.vic.gov.au/resources/documents/GRL_UR3R_Facility.pdf
http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/story/1/68881/GRD-to-offload-waste-treatment-facility
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/compost-regulations-unworkable-20100113-m71g.html
- noel - 01-Mar-2011
quote:
Originally posted by chops
Since they admitted it at the forum, it seems that the smell has got worse. One wonders if they had any temporary measures in place, to try and keep a lid on it presumably, but have removed those now its all out in the open...?
It's not gone worse over here, I think it depends on wind direction. We've had 2 or 3 days smell free.
- Top Cat - 01-Mar-2011
The smell in Bispham Avenue is partuicularly unpleasant this evening although I have to admit that it was not so bad earlier today. Certainly, just at the moment, 7.35 p.m. it is as bad as I have smelled it and really it makes me feel quite sick. It is rather like the smell of rotting cabbages. I will be complaining again to G.R. and the Environment Agency.
- noel - 01-Mar-2011
I hope it does some good, though I can't help feeling they should be made to shut down until it's corrected.
- Top Cat - 04-Mar-2011
Schadenfreude would be the word I would use, except for the fact that the people of Farington are the ones enduring the effects of others ‘mishaps’. It seems to me rather ironic that Global Renewables alone are paying substantial financial penalties when the responsibility for where it was built lies with the officers and members of Lancashire County Council. It was an act of arrogant ‘we know best’, crass, stupidity to build an unproven waste plant in a residential area. Because of its proximity to housing it was inevitable that any problem, however small, would affect local residents.
Here’s a thought for you. When we come to the blame game I wonder whether we will have Global Renewables saying ”We really didn’t want to build it there in the first place. We would rather have built it somewhere more remote.”
The smells appear to be getting worse at times, not better, and a consensus amongst the people of Farington is, I believe, that the Environment Agency should think again (if they are not already doing so) and close the plant down until this problem can be properly resolved, not just tinkered with in the hope that it will work.
- noel - 04-Mar-2011
We all knew it was an act of arrogance, that's what I came to expect off the old County Council. South Ribble tried their best, and countered a £50k legal challenge to the siting that was brushed aside.
We all knew this would be the end result why didn't the people in political power realise it?
I feel desperately sorry for you and your neighbours Tim, we lived in Bispham Avenue in 1974 when the site was first built and I know what a pleasant area it was at the time. Now with that humungous block behind the raised bank, and the smell as well, it must be an absolute nightmare for you. Our old council should hang their heads in shame, except they don't know the meaning of the word!!
- Looney Magnet - 04-Mar-2011
Can smell it in the Earnshaw bridge area too, I work in Chorley and it's there too. I've contacted my local MP and also GR about it. Several members of my family have been unwell possibly because of it and my asthma which has been fine for the past few years, almost to the extent that I thought it had cleared up completely has been playing up again lately. Could be unrelated of course but it makes me wonder...
Found this article on the subject.
http://www.ehow.com/list_6898066_side-effects-working-recycling-plant_.html
quote:
Other chemicals that can be released during the production and recycling of plastic are ethylene oxide, benzene and xylenes, according to Dance with the Shadows. These chemicals can cause health problems. Although recycling plants usually have filtration systems and other measures in place to control the amount of chemicals being exerted into the air, exposure is still possible.
Read more: What are the Side Effects of Working by a Recycling Plant? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6898066_side-effects-working-recycling-plant_.html#ixzz1FeztLsWi
Rather worrying that the plant in Farington appeared to have filter problems....
- Top Cat - 05-Mar-2011
Hi Kath
That's very interesting although of course this plant does not incinerate BUT one does wonder what else might be being released. They do test for certain gases and toxins, I understand, but what else might they not be testing for. It was several weeks before they 'detected' the smells because they have to send 'bags of air' away for testing and apparently it takes four weeks to get the results back so it was quite some while before they took any remedial action. My wife never suffered from asthma until very recently (although she is now in her sixties) but it has recently been diagnosed in a mild form (albeit before we smelled the smells) and we never made any connection with the waste plant. However she has been coughing and wheezing a bit in the last few weeks and has used her inhaler occasionally which she had not done for several months. It would seem very probably that this recurrence is associated with the smells.
- noel - 05-Mar-2011
Welcome to the forum Kath, and let's keep the pressure on.
- Looney Magnet - 05-Mar-2011
Thanks for the welcome, I contacted Lorraine Fulbrook yesterday about the plant but have yet to receive a reply. I also contacted Global Renewables who have replied to explain that the bacterial cultures in the filters were overwatered which is what caused the smell, and that studies were being done on the health implications of such plants which will be published in due course, one to look out for. The mouldy smell suggests spores which are related to respiritory problems.
I did find this mission statement from 2007.
http://www.globalrenewables.eu/deposit/documents/0000000362/Lancashire%20Close%20Perth%20FINAL.pdf. From the backing they've received it looks as though the plant's here to stay really, but you do what you can don't you. I think I read somewhere on here that the Australian plant has been closed but apparently that isn't the case. The reply I got from GR states that the German plant is owned by a different company, but this site
http://www.globalrenewables.eu/ur3r-process/global-alliances appears to suggest otherwise. The more you look into this the bigger it seems to get. Apparently there's another meeting on the 21st March at 18.30 at the Environmental Education Centre, might be one to attend.