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- sandyship - 18-Apr-2011
This topic is getting a bit cloak and daggerish isn't it!!!! Everyone seems to be looking over shoulders so to speak and wondering who they are.......sandy
- mick - 18-Apr-2011
I think I can smell a rat from here
- noel - 18-Apr-2011
Quite right not to reveal your source T.C.
- will i am - 18-Apr-2011
Hi everyone,
I was hoping to go to the meeting tonight but got home from work a little late. How did it go? More BS i suppose. I was speaking to a fella on friday night in my local and his pal works at the Thornton plant. He told me that there is never any word of the odour problem discussed at Thornton so I could get much info out of him. I told him to ask his mate to find out what he could just in case we have a problem at this end in the future. Sure am glad i found this forum just in case!!!!! He did say that moral was low at Thornton and expectations are not high. Sounds like they have got it right!!
Too many chiefs and not enough indians was what he was saying, and the chiefs don't know very much. The perfect modern facility. Keep me posted please. Up the revolution!
- Top Cat - 19-Apr-2011
Sorry, it appears that the 'rumour' was wrong as to the impending closure. At the meeting on Monday evening it was denied by both LCC and GR that this was to happen, or that any threat by LCC to 'pull the plug' had been made. It was also denied that any dismissals of staff had been made because of the smell etc. However, Dick Ellis from LCC, who has fronted the LCC's involvement since early stages has apparently taken voluntary redundancy and left the County Council. You may think that these two occurences are linked, though I couldn't possibly comment.
As to the smell it transpires that, since the last public meeting on 21 March, Global Renewables have discovered a major problem with the scrubbers which was, at least in part, partially responsible for the smell and was delaying the re-energizing of the peat beds/bio-filters. These have now been cleaned and the smells, whilst not totally removed, have been reduced by some 95%, and are on target to be totally stopped within the next 4 weeks. It beggars belief that there was such apparent lackadaisical management and monitoring that this major problem went undetected for some 10 or more weeks from when the smells were first noticed until the 'discovery' of this problem. GR have put in place a seven point check system for early detection of future problems with the scrubbers and bio-filters but, to me, it seems that this should have been in place before the plant started operation. Also, I would hold LCC equally culpable for not insisting upon adequate monitoring systems as part of the contract AS WE WERE ASSURED WOULD BE DONE.
There was a Doctor present from the Health Protection Agency (I think) but I couldn't hear much of what he said. Even after all the meetings GR have still failed to provide a microphone, although David Brewer the C.E.O. was miked up. From what I could hear the Doctor tried to assure people that, at the levels of omissions detected, the omissions probably don't present any health hazard but that unfortunately there have been insufficient tests done for this to be a definitive answer. This was not very reassuring to many people.
At present, until the problems are finally resolved, no finacial penalties have been imposed BUT, Steve Scott, who has replaced Dick Ellis as the LCC representative did state that as well as the 'environmental penalties' which will be used for the benefit of the affected community, that there would be considerable operational penalties for non delivery of the contract by GR because they had failed to treat all waste etc, that waste has had to go to landfill and elsewhere, and that LCC are themselves considerably out of pocket.
The environment agency continue to be unimpressed with GR's performance, their lack of appropriate monitoring etc. and did state that some form of prosecution for nuisance etc. was quite possible.
I hope that I have reported the above information accurately and can only apologise if I have got any of it wrong as I could not hear everything that was said.
- noel - 19-Apr-2011
Thanks for the report TC. 3 in the morning as well. I heard cats were nocturnal creatures.[
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- filmoss - 19-Apr-2011
Steve Scott eh !!!! A very good mate of mine [
] I thought he was working in landfill !!
- Top Cat - 04-May-2011
Although things have undoubtedly improved since GR discovered the problems with the scrubbers, and cleaned them, the smell was again present over the Bank Holiday weekend and yesterday. It may well have been there also in the intervening period but I hadn't smelled it; perhaps because of the wind direction. It is good to note that the Environment Agency continue to come around. It will be interesting to see what they do as regards enforcement when (hopefully) this is all concluded; and what LCC do about financial penalties. I have to say that I, and many others, feel that LCC are largely to blame for this debacle, despite GRs' legal responsibilities, because it was LCC who put the plant in a residential area in the first place.
- noel - 04-May-2011
I've not smelt it over here ( about a mile east of the plant) for some time TC.
LCC are totally to blame for this charade. RAWS and South Ribble made it quite plain what the consequencies of building next to a residential area would be.
If the factory had been built in a more remote area, next to Garth Prison for example I doubt there would have been the same fuss made about the smell.
- Martin - 21-Jul-2011
Bosses behind a controversial Leyland waste plant say they’re no longer a nuisance neighbour.
The £320m Farington Waste Technology Plant - a joint venture between Global Renewables and Lancashire County Council - has been plagued by problems over bad smells pouring from the premises since early January.
But bosses at the plant now say they have had a significant reduction in the number of complaints they have received about the odours.
A spokesperson for Global Renewables said: “Our odour levels are well within the boundaries set and have been for a while now.
http://www.leylandguardian.co.uk/news/local/waste_plant_we_are_not_a_nuisance_1_3593941