In England's green and pleasant land

[David]

Football hooligans attack police

Police were attacked by rival fans outside the stadium
Hundreds of football fans attacked police officers as violence broke out after Sunday's FA Cup tie between Stoke City and Birmingham City.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engla...730862.stm

I thought the Brit's had got this out of their system ?

[noel]

When you've got hooligans attacking fireman attending the scenes of fires it doesn't surprise me. Mostly football hooliganism has been stamped out but you do get the odd case where not enough police were on duty, usually the pre match pints fuel the trouble. No problems at Deepdale anyway.

[rocketmanjohn]

How come drunken yobs seem to be accepted as 'the way it is' and yet one puff of a cigarette and everyone is up in arms. I havent heard of police or firemen being attacked by someone smoking one too many.
John

[Sandieh]

Maybe smokers are easier to handle John, most of them are just minding their own business keeping themselves to themselves and having a quiet puff, where as if you told a drunken yob to stop being a drunken yob they would be likely to thump the objector[B)][][B)][][B)][]
[}]Had to laugh when I saw your post, Had this vision of gangs of SMOKERS chasing people with their cigs and using them like little swords [][][}]

[Alan Marsden]

You raise a good point John, why is it that being drunk can be used as an excuse, and why does Britain produce so many yobs ,could it be that there are too many pubs in the the towns of the UK ?

[noel]

Ah, I forgot to say, all the football yobs were hardened smokers.[}]

But just to add to that, many smokers come up with diversary tactics when his/her habit is under attack. It's the only defence they have. Firemen are actually not allowed to take action against the yobs who stone them why? Why can't they turn their hoses on them and drown the little hoodied sods?

[David]

I have never been a smoker, I guess it was because I mated out with five lads who didn't smoke either, all appretices, we probably couldn't afford ten Turf between us [] Funny thing is, all my brothers and my sister smoked as did my dad, but even to this day, being in the company of smokers doesn't bother me. Perhaps the converted smoker is more affected by the smoke, it being a very big temptation to have a puff when the casual smoke drifts by [?]
I always remember one of my brothers married an Irish catholic, we were all CofE, that brother became more catholic than the Pope himself....once again...the convert reaction [?]

[LDunlop76]

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Originally posted by David

Perhaps the converted smoker is more affected by the smoke, it being a very big temptation to have a puff when the casual smoke drifts by [?]

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I have never been a smoker either, but I am very much affected by smoke. If I stay in a smoky atmosphere too long I get blood shot eyes and a cough. So it's not just the converts up in arms!

Re Noel's comments about the firemen not turning their hoses on attackers - I'd be all for that too. Things have gone too far the other way. In my childhood the local bobby would give misbehaving lads a clip round the ear and that's all it would take. If I was a fireman under attack, I'd be sorely tempted to ooops, accidentally discharge the hose in the direction of the oiks concerned! [}]

[William R]

Just a quickie - Football hooligans in Sheffield.

I have been told that at the local derby the other day between Sheff.United and Sheff Weds there was a little bit of trouble which resulted in a policeman being hospitallized (?) He was apparently seized by some of the "supporters" and swung round by his riot helmet which was firmly attached to his head and wouldn`t come off. Result a severely strained neck condition. Perhaps the crowd didn`t like the "cavalry charge" by the mounted police, backed by baton wielding "troops" behind, at Wadsley Bridge by the ground. I believe the match ended in a draw, but who cares?

[Alan Marsden]

From today's Daily Telegraph- " A teenager who used the F-word while chatting with friends in a park has been handed an £80 fine by a police officer for anti-social behaviour."
Evidently there's a new law against such profanities in the uk, is this to the good ?
I think so, however there must be multitudes who could well bankrupt themselves !
I've never heard profanities elswhere on the scale of the uk, I guess it goes with yobbery, at least the public funds should prosper !