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Come on, give me your opinion.....
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06-Jul-2003, 09:16 PM
I was in India for a while just as they were preparing for Independence in 1947. I saw both sides of the coin, it would be unwise for me to relate my personal experiences at that time. In my opinion, payback time is here. Bill.
06-Jul-2003, 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kath smith In any case talking has to be an option at all times. Talking is THE option that should be used in all conflicts. Without talking, there can be no peaceful solution. I have to say that it looks as if America didn't want a peaceful solution, other than Saddam leaving his country before the war started. I don't know the real reasons for this latest war, but the only way to ensure a peaceful future is for the western leaders to talk, or more importantly, listen.
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07-Jul-2003, 04:46 AM
What other reason could the USA have for it's decision on Iraq? There is nothing in Iraq that the USA could want, including oil. As regards the Democrats, who wants another after the last idiot. You know, the one who claimed oral sex was'nt sex at all. We're still paying the price for all the stupid mistakes he made.
Just because no weapons have been found does'nt mean they arent there, it's a big country and they could be anywhere. As I said previously, should we just sit back and turn a blind eye to genocide? History would indeed be repeating itself. John
07-Jul-2003, 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by rocketmanjohn , should we just sit back and turn a blind eye to genocide? History would indeed be repeating itself.John Well John the war has only just begun. You are now having to sit back and watch young soldiers killed off in spasmodic attacks. We have already lost more men "after" the war than we did during it.As for worrying about genocide I don't recall that being the reason for invading Iraq. Even our own PM Tony Blair has come under heavy criticism for siding with America. In fact a recent poll showed that 94% of people questioned did not trust him anymore. Quite remarkable when you consider his popularity before the war.
08-Jul-2003, 04:03 AM
Noel, My original comments referred to genocide, I did'nt try to justify anything, I was just asking the question. Should weapons of mass destruction be found, would that make the reason to go in be justified? Again, I'm asking the question. People ask why the USA does'nt go to war with other tyranical regimes, if it did would these people the change their minds and support the action as they imply? I think not.
I don't really care if the USA and the UK are the most hated countries, ask who is doing the judging and then ask what right they have to judge. Germany and France seem to be the most vocal, Germany needs to look at its own track record and see that it was the most destructive country of the 20th century, and the French need to be more grateful that they were saved from total destruction by the sacrifice of British and American lives. John
08-Jul-2003, 09:23 AM
I think all 3 coalition members ( I read somewhere that Spain was one??) are desperate for WOMD to be found. If they are then they would say that the war had been proved to be justified. I hope they are found. At least it would make me feel easier about things. Another soldier shot today continues to make me feel uneasy.
08-Jul-2003, 01:55 PM
John, Germans and French suffer from that common complaint, loss of memory. The worst thing last century in my opinion, was to throw away our last bit of indepemdence by building the Channel Tunnel. Water kept the riff raff from the Continent away for hundreds of years, now look what`s happened, don`t want to be racist so I`ll shut up there. William R.
08-Jul-2003, 02:13 PM
Sorry, back again. I see Spain mentioned. I had the rotten job of robbing good British workmen of their livelihood by equipping a factory near Barcelona with our machinery and writing out precise instructions how they could operate it. I complained to my M.D. that it was criminal to make men redundant for the work to go to Spain, his reply was that If the British people wanted to continue having cheap Spanish holidays, the expertise had to be sent to them in a reciprocal agreement. No machinery - no cheap holidays on the Costas. I then had to do a "reciprocal" thing with Japan, and South Africa and Poland. I refused on principle to do any work on the Japanese project and went to the top of the redundancy list. my whole department`s workload was transferred to Germany because German engineers were "more co-operative". Was I bitter at the Germans and Japanese?, you bet I was. When you work for a company run by a Swiss C.E. with its H.Q.in London, with factories world wide, cost is all that matters, They always get the money in, it can come from the cheapest slave labour, it matters not where, but it certainly is not Britain. They pay my pension, but I`m still bitter
and will continue to complain. Cheerio, William R.
10-Jul-2003, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by William R Water kept the riff raff from the Continent away for hundreds of years, now look what`s happened, The way a certain section of British youth behave (or perhaps more accurately don't behave?) when on foreign holidys, I think it's the Brits who are regarded as riff-raff on the Continent! [V]
11-Jul-2003, 08:59 AM
Hey Linda, I was only trying to be P.C. about the riff-raff. Didn`t want to mention any particular people. I HAVE watched the Ibiza programmes etc on T.V. - point taken. I am also alarmed at the latest reports of our servicemen`s activities in Cyprus (I think). So smooth your bristles down, there`s a love. From over the Pennines, Bill.
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