What kind of society have we become.

[noel]

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Originally posted by Spitfire
I find this thread most upsetting. Simply because all of it is 100% correct. There is no doubt that the police get more job satisfaction out of prosecuting drivers who exceed the speed limit by 5 MPH, than catching the drug pushers - who are the root of most of todays evils. The saddest thing of all is the feeling of total inability that one has in being able to change anything!

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I can't remember the name of the village now Jim but police put up a sign saying something to the effect of " We have caught 1072 speeding drivers this year." Somebody sarcastically put up a sign next to it saying " And no burglars."

[William R]

Noel, this Saturday will be a good day for burglars and sneak thieves in Barnsley, its the annual Mayors Parade when every available policeman is on display, (notice I didn`t say duty), bacause they are really good at telling motorists they can`t go here or there, because its the Mayors Parade . Chaos from 10-00am to 4-00pm. I`m locking the house up and going out of town for the day. Cheerio, William R. (thats not my real name, and the details Martin has are false anyway, got to protect myself.) William R.

[Guest 01]

In my humble opinion the rot comes from the top-particularly do gooder politicians and the PC Brigade -not to mention the nest featherers.What sort of an example do they teach!
Here there has just been a law passed by a 'conscience' vote in Parliament 66 -65 to legalise Prostitution.Meant to license these places-so called massage parlours etc.Gives the workers protections of all sorts such as claims for rape etc.It will be impossible to police them A few days after the law passed there were machete threats in South Auckland as undesirables moved in to the area to take up the profitable trade in women.One chap even wanted to put up a notice advertising for girls in the local employment dept.He was turned down but legally he can do it and could take issue with the refusal.Just like the prisoner who broke a leg jumping off the prison roof to escape some time ago and claimed accident compensation.And got it.
Parents are not always at fault-I feel -very much luck sometimes if young ones get into the wrong company.Keep them involved in Sport or Music and cross your fingers and toes.
Several cases here of farmers who have used guns to protect their property from cannabis growers and druggies only to find themselves on the other side of the law.Usually common sense has prevailed but it does seem that the Law in an Ass.
NZ is relatively safe but not as it once was.Political Correctness has a lot to answer for.

[William R]

Lady G, There must be an answer to this problem, at one time the cry was to send them into the forces to make men of them, the forces don`t deserve that sort of person. Send offenders to prison, not a good idea, they will become more qualified in the skills which let them down in the first instance, and avoid future detection. Some old timers will say, "What we need is a good war to bring everyone to their senses", but I don`t even that would work, the louts of today become the wide boys of tomorrow, and the parasites of the future. They may even become M.P.`s Hard work is what they need, bring back the heavy industries, where graft was graft, men were men, communities stuck together and sorted out their own layabouts. No need for the law there, a quick viait outside and a lesson learnt. From over the Pennines, Cheerio, William R.

[LDunlop76]

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Originally posted by rocketmanjohn
Where are the police?............ I can treat intruders any way I see fit. Surely this is a basic right. Just what are you supposed to do in England these days, make them a cup of tea?

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Where are the Police? You might well ask! Certainly not out patrolling the streets! The days of the friendly bobby walking his beat are long gone. When I was a child, we all knew who the local PC was - he was Diane Finney's dad! - and we saw him walking the pavements regularly. Nowadays if you see a copper on your street you know someone's been burgled - that's if you spot the policeman in the 5 minutes the car's parked outside the house!And you might as well make a burglar a cuppa, John! You can use "reasonable force" against a household intruder, but it might end up as your word against his and if you injured him, woe betide you.

[William R]

Like I said Linda, come to Barsnsley tomorrow, July 12th. between 10 am and 4 pm and you will see more policemen than you believed were on the force, its the Mayor`s Parade, an important day for us, thats when we check how many policemen we are paying the levy for. The only time we see them. The town has been transformed with plants and flowers, where were the police when someone was nickinmg newly set plants from the displays.? Just wondered. William R.

[William R]

Just a thought for all you Leylanders, Remember Sergeants Pollit and Turner who used to terrorise the youth of Leyland long ago. A clout from Sgt. Pollit`s rolled up cape was a wonderfu deterrent. Now They were proper policemen. William R.

[LDunlop76]

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Originally posted by William R
come to Barsnsley tomorrow, July 12th. between 10 am and 4 pm and you will see more policemen than you believed were on the force,

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The last time I saw any large number of police about their business was a couple of years ago. We'd gone out to the cinema at Robin Park which is right next to Wigan's JJB Stadium. Latics were playing some southern club (possibly Millwall.... maybe in a cup fixture.... don't quote me on that) and trouble was expected, so the riot police, mounted police, riot vehicles, the lot were lined up outside the stadium. I don't know what they get up to when there's not football violence to deal with - it's not walking the beat!Here's a laugh for you. Several years ago (and before calls to the police started being directed to a central call centre for the area) we had a handbag stolen at work, so we rang the police station, which is just next-door-but-one, and the duty sergeant had no idea where the clinic was! Time was when a policeman would have known his patch! Mind you, about 12 months before the handbag theft, vandals had broken into the special needs children's nursery, which is right next to the police station, and had a high old time, trashing the place. The alarm was ringing out, windows were smashed, furniture wrecked, yet no-one from HM Police next door noticed a thing![V]

[noel]

Dunkirk Lane used to be a lovely spot to live in. Not any more, Moss Side as it's called now has had a large influx of "foreigners" of the not very pleasant kind. I avoid the area like the plague.
From tonights leyland citizen on www.leylandtoday.co.uk comes this harrowing story.
"A DISTRAUGHT young couple who were brutally attacked by teenage thugs claim the lives of residents in Leyland are being ruined by yobs.

Philip Hindley, 25, and his partner insist they are desperate to leave Moss Side after the vicious assault in which they were both punched and kicked to the ground by a 10-strong gang of youths on Dunkirk Lane.
The couple claim they are the latest in a string of victims who have suffered at the hands of aggressive yobs.
Mr Hindley was walking towards a newsagents with his partner and mother on Sunday July 13 when he was verbally abused by a man close to Moss Side Community Centre.
After a short confrontation, the thug then smashed a glass bottle around the side of Mr Hindley's face.
A nearby gang of youths then jumped into the brawl and began kicking and punching Mr Hindley as he lay on the ground. Mr Hindley's partner, who does not want to be named, was struck in the face by a gang member. The attack left Mr Hindley with a fractured cheekbone, a black eye, two missing teeth and chest injuries, while his partner suffered slight bruising.
Five youths were arrested and later bailed to re-appear at a police station pending further investigations. Nobody has yet been charged.
Mr Hindley, who is still recovering from his injuries, said the attack had left his family mentally scarred and is now desperate to leave the area.
He said: "It's a disgrace what is happening around here. A lot of residents are frightened about what's going on. We're not the first to have been attacked.
"It was completely unprovoked, I can't understand why those lads would want to attack me and my partner. It will take me a long time to recover from this. I don't know why I'm living around here any more."
His partner added: "The gang were kicking Philip's head as though it was a bouncy ball, it was horrible. We've had enough of this place ... it's absolutely appalling."
It comes three months after security guard Karl Hooley was left with serious face and rib injuries after a late night attack outside Moss Side Community Centre.
Coun Anne Brown, who represents Moss Side, condemned what happened, but said: "We are making big steps to make Moss Side safer and it's soon to get a community beat manager."
Det Con Tony Wilson, of Leyland CID, said there has been a number of violent attacks around the community centre in recent months. He has now called for witnesses to the latest incident to come forward.
He said: "A man driving a maroon or Burgundy 4X4 vehicle came to Mr Hindley's aid and we are desperate for him to get in touch with us. It's important we try and apprehend all those who were responsible for such an attack."

[Bill Rigby]

Had an unpleasant encounter in Florida a couple of weeks ago. My wife's mother and sister live in Yalaha, but we stay at a place called "The Villages" close to where a childhood friend of my wife and her sister lives. The friend mentioned an English couple on our last visit living close by and this time she arranged for us to meet for dinner.
The English couple turned out to be from Leicester and share their time between FL and the UK. As soon as we entered into conversation, Barry, as the guy is called, launched into a tirade about how "his" country has been ruined by politicians allowing in all the 'blacks'. He asked if I had been 'home' recently and when I told him last year, he asked me to verify his allegation. I said the place seemed no different with some parts of certain towns with quite large Asian populations. Still, I said, no more than 10% of the overall UK population can be classified as Asian/Black, so I do not see this as a problem in the modern world. He immediately claimed absurdly that 90% of the population of Leicester is 'black'! At that, we barely spoke again, but at dinner his wife wanted to talk of her travel in the QE2, an utterly boring account whose main purpose was to relate how she put down the wife of the editor of the "Daily Mirror" - no the "Daily Telegraph", corrected her husband - following the statement that they would "of course, be returning on the Concorde". I relate no more since any reader will grasp the flavor.
I have never been fortunate in my encounters with expatriate compadres and usually seek to avoid them. Barry and his wife confirmed once again my instincts!