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<<I have never been fortunate in my encounters with expatriate compadres and usually seek to avoid them. Barry and his wife confirmed once again my instincts!>>
There are always ignorant bigots about - what a pity you seem to run into more than your fair share, Bill R. As to the govt "allowing in the blacks", it was my understanding immigration was positively encouraged because we didn't have the necessary workforce in the 50's. I wonder if Barry and his wife realise the NHS would grind to a halt were it not for the high numbers of overseas staff? I wonder if they also realise most of the black and asian population living in the UK are now second and third generation? They were born here and have as much right to be here as Mr. & Mrs. Barry. What would Mr & Mrs Barry's opinion be if a US citizen moaned to them about the number of Brits the US govt had "allowed in"? I bet they wouldn't like the boot to be on the other foot, so to speak! <g>
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Noel-1, sorry to hear about the incident in Dunkirk Lane. I spent most of childhood there living at the Smithy - that was when Moss side was full of cows and market gardeners .. and, of course, the original St James' School!
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Whoops!!! Its August again. Match Day in Barnsley, and Oakwell visited by Colchester, (we won). And there they were, all the hordes of Police to keep order on the streets. Do they breed during the "off season" - there are certainly a lot about on "Match Day"? Crime? oh yes it goes on un-noticed by all these extras, do they put them away in boxes until the next "Match Day"? Perhaps the Hi-Vis jackets help to propogate them in the hot weather? William R (an alias of course)
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Note to Lady G. Twenty to go!!!!!
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Latest comment on what kind of society we have become in this morning's paper.Faliraki,Rhodes-Gangs fight.Police say 'it was a nightmare scenario following a summer of violence ,drug taking and sex assaults by young British yobs'..............'this is the worst case so far with regard to the excesses of British tourists in our country(Captain Kalamatas)there have been warnings that rapes,drinking,drug excesses and violence could lead to a killing.This nightmare has now become a reality'
Daily Mail Wed August 13 2003.
Comments?
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16 to go William R.
Keep up the good work
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May I offer a thought here? A certain segment of any population tends to violence, mayhem and drunkeness. It has always existed among young men and youths at all levels of society, except the working class lads get the publicity and notoriety, in accordance with the well know adage, "its the rich what gets the fun, but the poor what gets the blame". What is new is the ability of this segment to travel as a matter of affluence unknown 50 years ago.
Living in a country where 'news' is a commodity to sell product, we are constantly bombarded with alarmist stories of all kinds ("If it bleeds, it leads")not least of which are sensational reports of the young as drug, sex and mayhem addicts. Yet, the kids I talk to seem as normal as they ever were, but probably just a little more sophisticated when it comes to using, or taking advantage of, technology.
Sources like the 'Daily Mail' have to treated with caution. Media whores exist on both sides of the Atlantic and the 'popular press' in the UK has its share. Indeed, the scandal sheets in the US - National Enquirer, etc.. - are mostly written by expatriate 'journalists' living in Florida.
I have confidence in the vast majority of today's youth.
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Yes, the mobs who used to fight on Brighton's sea front (as a for instance) in the 50's and 60's are now able to take their skirmishes to Ibiza and Greece.
However, whilst I agree with Bill R that most of today's youth are still good kids (I'd have to - I'm mother to 2 of 'em!), I think the increased affluence of modern teenagers had led to increased alcohol consumption and I reckon this is what fuels a lot of the trouble they get into. 30 years ago I couldn't afford to "get bladdered". Modern teenagers seem to have sufficient funds to over-indulge in booze and with the introduction of alcopops, they don't even have to adjust to the more adult taste of alcholic drinks. Ir'n Bru flavoured vodka? I ask you!
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Sadly this violence is not always confined to the young teenager who has much to learn about handling alcohol wisely ,and moderation generally, but to a large degree troublemakers seem to come from the 18-35 age group-in other words a middle range.
There is also the added problem of louts from other nationalities masquerading as British nationals in an effort to bring discredit to this country.
One rotten apple etc etc
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Sadly this violence is not always confined to the young teenager who has much to learn about handling alcohol wisely ,and moderation generally, but to a large degree troublemakers seem to come from the 18-35 age group
I agree, a lot of trouble makers are of an age where they ought to know better. The behaviour of our troops abroad also leaves a lot to be desired - yet again a report on the radio this morning of our soldiers causing trouble - this time it's a group of women in Africa suing because they were raped by British troops....... who were there as peace keepers! Hmmmmm.